Jun/105
What Foursquare Could Learn from Marco Polo
It's no great secret that I don't get Foursquare. At least not for me. While I readily admit that I find the societal phenomenon that is Foursquare to be interesting, (like my friend Holly Wall) I just don't care if people know where I am or not. The truth is I feel it probably gives me an advantage if people don't know where I am. I even think it's a little disturbing that some people do want to have their location known all the time. I mean the whole idea of Foursquare is, like most social media, more than a little narcissistic. Each Foursquare participant proudly posts their location because, at some level, they believe that the knowledge of their geospatial relationship to the world revolving around them is of invaluable interest to someone, likely everyone. In the words of Abby Wambaugh,
Foursquare is just another example of how social MEdia is all about ME. "I'M HERE! COME SEE ME HERE! I'M HERE AND YOU'RE NOT INVITED"
That said, Foursquare does have it's appeal. While I don't really care if people know where I am, I occasionally do want to know where other people are, but not those people - you know, the ones that update Foursquare all the time. (As an aside, I've developed a theory - the amount people care where you is is inversely proportional to the frequency at which you update Foursquare.) The problem with Foursquare is that the model focuses on the POSTING of location, not the utility of using that information. This begs the age old question, if a tree becomes the Mayor of the forest but no one's following it on Twitter to read about it, does it make a sound? The reality, most of the time , is no one cares that you are at Kip's Big Boy... again. Unless, of course, they do.
As a tool to fuel narcissism, Foursquare works great - it amplifies the dilution that the world is somehow interested in the insignificant minutia of one's otherwise pathetic life. But as tool to inform one about the location of people whom they want to locate? You know, something of actual utility? In my opinion, it falls short - explicitly because Foursquare focuses on the narcissism of the poster.
So this got me thinking today. Remember playing that game "Marco Polo" in the swimming pool as a kid? One person closes their eyes and yells "Marco?" and all the other kids yell "Polo" revealing their location. Then the Marco-yeller, with eyes still closed, then tries to tag the Polo-yellers. Now this model of geo location makes sense to me. The Marco-yeller needs to know everyone else's location so he or she sends out a general request.
Now, image the same game except the kid with his eye closed yells "Polo" over and over again. The other kids go about their day because they don't see the value of Foursquare, and frankly find the kid with his eye closed to be annoying. I don't know about you, but this seems like a significantly less fun game to me.
So what I think Foursquare needs - or a competitor - needs to develop is a Marco Polo feature. I run an app on my iPhone and press the "Marco" button. Everyone on my friends list gets a text asking them to yell "Polo" by running an app on their phone that posts their location. I then wait a few minutes and see a current list of all my friends who want to be found at that moment. The system could be smart enough to realize when someone has checked-in (either as a "Polo" or just because) within some time frame - say 30 minutes - and not send the text (limiting the maximum number of text received to one per 30 minutes or whatever). If I have a lot of friend and they all yell "Marco" a lot it would get annoying - but that's a good thing because it forces people to keep their networks small and meaningful. Another good thing about this model is that the system prompts you at the precise moment when someone cares where you are - so you only check in when that information is actually valuable to a real person - not just the anonymous Foursquare-o-verse of whatever it's called.
I think there's some interesting potential here and Will Buthod agrees (from Twitter):
@wbuthod: @mattgalloway Ooh, cool! you could play all sorts of cool games, like "Stalker Pong", or "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Roulette"!
@wbuthod: @mattgalloway Actually, it's not a bad idea. As a SM tool *and* as a minimalist lifeline for "helicopter parents".
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Roulette!?!? Finally we're talking social media with real purpose. I'm guessing someone's already doing this but I haven't yet seen it. If it did come about, I might just give it a try.




June 22nd, 2010
I actually really like your idea, Matt. I think one of the very few appeals of FourSquare (in my opinion) is that it is a game. I could care less who the mayor of Elote is, but I could see the appeal, if I’m someone who visits Elote frequently and also an avid FourSqaure user, of trying to oust said mayor and replace him or her. So, as a game, it could be fun.
My real problem with FourSquare is that I see no value in it. I don’t care where you are or what you’re doing — unless you give me a reason to care. I’m less likely to unfollow someone on Twitter who’s overloading my feed with his or her FourSquare check-ins if he or she is adding content to them, making them relevant to someone who’s not on FourSquare but who might or might not like to visit those places.
Someone argued once the value of FourSquare is that it gives other people information about businesses and venues they might not otherwise visit. No, it doesn’t. What I say on Twitter about Elote can have (and probbaly does have) more value than someone checking in on FourSquare. Just saying you’re there doesn’t mean anything. Why are you there? Why should I care? That’s not something FourSquare should be concerned about; it’s something FourSquare users should be concerned about.
The whole point is exactly what you stated above: keeping networks “small and meaningful.”
Polo.
June 22nd, 2010
I strongly dislike (my mom told me not to hate) geo-targeted applications – personally. Apparently they are a big business, as in $150 million big (http://thelostjacket.com/marketing/geolocations-endgame). Ironically, I also ghost wrote an article about them for my CTO. I see the value in companies monitoring this stuff, free info that people willingly make available – why not?! I just can’t imagine why anyone would find value in using this on a regular basis for personal benefits.
“The other kids go about their day because they don’t see the value of Foursquare, and frankly find the kid with his eye closed to be annoying.” Yes.
Also, I don’t care if you’re (collective you) a mayor and no one else does either. I’m not even sure what that means, except that I probably don’t want to be friends with you, but since you are so self absorbed you probably don’t care.
Note: I would have, however, thought a narcissist such as yourself would have eaten this bandwagon up.
June 22nd, 2010
Something else just occurred to me. Since I’m not a FourSquare user, I make my judgments about it based on how its interpreted on Twitter, which is why I assert it has little to no value.
Now, if I’m mistaken, if the content provided via the FourSquare site is supremely meaningful, then it should stay there, because it doesn’t translate to Twitter. On Twitter, it translates as “annoying.”
June 22nd, 2010
Abby,
Foursquare is for amateur narcissists. Me and my ilk find more narcissistic joy in just knowing that everyone desperately wants to know where we are without the aid of Foursquare.
That and I still think Foursquare is kinda pointless.
-M.
June 22nd, 2010
Holly,
Thanks for stopping by. You and I are on the same page here. I do think Foursquare provides some value to those who actually do establish their own communities there (or so I’ve heard) but I totally agree with you about Twitter noise.
-M.